Kinematics: Polar Coordinates?

I did this question in the last week of my JEE journey. This question is all mathematics-vectors-coordiantes-derivatives, etc, but one needs firm foundations on the significance of angular velocity, and 'radial' velocity

A particle, initially at a distance d from the origin on the X axis takes off on a peculiar trajectory, driven by an external agent dealing with which is none of our bussiness. The trajectory is such that at any position of the particle (r, Q) in polar coodinates, its velocity is [(-VocosQ icap) + (Vo(1-sinQ) jcap)], where Vo is a constant

We are to find its angular velocity about the origin, its radial velocity about the origin, and its distance from origin as it strikes the Y axis, in terms of the bold data

Free question-> a particle at (3,4) is moving with velocity (1,2,3), find x+y+z, if its angular velocity about origin is (x,y,z)


-Sambhav

20 comments:

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  2. you aren't getting what 'radial' velocity means shaan, it isn't a vector, it is the rate at which the distance 'r' from the origin varies

    and you are almost there for the distance from the origin at Y axis

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  3. distance from origin k =sin-1(1-e*-d) angular velocity = -v.cosk/k radial velocity = v.e*-d

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  4. shivam: whats' e*?

    sambhav: then, is radial acc also not a vector?..i think it is..

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  5. it is e raised to the power -d.

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  6. free ques
    i think it is 1/5

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  7. is it
    Vradial= Vo(1-sinQ)
    Vang= V/r * cosQ
    dist = droot2
    1/5 ???

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  8. plz... reply if i am wrong so that i can think about it more......

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  9. no shivam, ur answer is wrong

    anonymous and shaan have answered most of it correctly, but no one has yet come up with the distance on Y axis correctly.

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  10. it is simple to give the answers in that format what i did is that dy/dt=v.(1-sinq)
    and dx/dt=-v.cosq.
    and divided the above two eqns and get relation b/w x and y (i mean r and q) so we dont need coordinates.is it right method because we have same method in ncert for a diff exercise

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  11. in that format should it not be q.

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  12. 1)i didn't get what you meant in ur last comment...(try to use as little as pronouns as possible while taking part in discussions)

    2)answer is asked in terms of quantities written in bold only, x and y are completely out of picture

    3)definitely, dy/dt=v.(1-sinq)and dx/dt=-v.cosq, but x and y are themselves functions of q

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  14. hi, is the dist from origin on y axis= d/2?

    ps: it took me over 3 days for this to strike!!! :)

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  15. the soln easy not as easy to strike, you have to assume coordinates at(r,Q) as (rcosQ, rsinQ) and velocity as (-VocosQ,Vo(1-sinQ)), the derivative of position with time is velocity, and neither r nor Q is constant
    find dr/dt and dQ/dt
    divide to get dr/dQ, solve the DE to get the motion in polar coordinates, at Q=0, r=d, find r at Q=pi/2

    can anyone give the curve in cartesian coordinates?

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  16. for the free question, you have to use the formula---->angular velocity=(rxv)/|r|^2...(you can use this to get the angular velocity in the above problem also)

    remember that v(perpendicular)/r is only the magnitude, u have to assign direction as k cap if it is anticlockwise

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  17. curve in cartesian coordinates:

    x^2+y^2= (d-y)^2

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  18. thanks a ton for this( & many other) wonderful questions

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